Water: Everything You Needed and Never Wanted to Know with Robert Slovak

Boomer Anderson: [00:00:00]Welcome to decoding superhuman. This show is a deep dive into obsessions withhealth performance, and how to elevate the human experience. I explore thelatest tools, science and technology with experts in various fields of humanoptimization. This is your host. Enjoy the journey.

All right, so we're now approaching, if not over episode 200of this podcast, and thank you all for really being with me on this journey.It's been absolutely incredible over the course of the past 200 episodes. I'vetalked about hydration, but I've never done an episode fully dedicated towater. If you run in health circles, the name Robert Slovak has come up.

Probably several times before he took his engineeringbackground and co-founded a company called water factory systems in the early1970s. Robert and his brother were among the early developers of reverseosmosis technology. And as many applications, if you're unfamiliar with thatterm, don't worry. We cover it extensively in this podcast.

Now, why did I want to dedicate an entire episode to water?Like many topics on this podcast? There are oftentimes where I get intoarguments with either family members, someone close to me, friends, somebodywho I respect and want to set the record straight. And that is the case. Ofcourse, when it comes to water, we get into why you may not want to trust yourtap water.

We get into reverse osmosis technology, deuterium, depletedwater, and we define that. Of course, what filters to select and so much moreRobert is an absolute wealth of knowledge. And you can probably expect to seehim back on the podcast sometime in the feature. The show notes for this oneare decoding superhuman.com/slovak that's S L O B a K.

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Let's get to my car conversation. Robert Slovak, Robert, youand I have many mutual friends. So this is a conversation that I've longawaited having. So thank you for coming on the show.

Robert Slovak: [00:03:45]You're very welcome. I'm honored to be on your show and, and finding out thatyou're, you're in Amsterdam. One of my favorite places.

Yeah.

Boomer Anderson: [00:03:54]You've spent quite a bit of time here in the water industry, and it's notsurprising that the industry's conference happens to be an Amsterdam, which isactually underwater.

Robert Slovak: [00:04:06]I mean, you are the water guys and some of the first work I did, uh, in reverseosmosis, uh, ended up, uh, I would say most of the work on our row was done inthe United States, really under the government, um, government, uh, programs,uh, because they looked at revert this technology as the hope to make freshwater from seawater.

That's what it was all about in the beginning, but the firstcountry to take an interest and invite me over was of course. Uh,

Boomer Anderson: [00:04:43]absolutely. The, the engineers here, especially just to keep this place, uh,not really above water per se, but not flooded is, uh, it's genius.

Robert Slovak: [00:04:54]I mean, they've done things that are just incredible.

So

Boomer Anderson: [00:04:59]Robert, I want to cover just a couple of basics with you on water. Uh, so if Iwere to look at, let's say my parents or my extended family, uh, that I go totheir houses and actually my parents are not guilty of this, but certainly theextended family, or just relatives of mine though, drink, tap water, ormunicipal water.

Why should someone be concerned about the water that iscoming out of their tap? I mean, it's obvious in places like Mumbai, you don'twant to drink the tap water, but. If we're in sort of municipal cities in theUnited States, certain parts of Europe, uh, why should we avoid it?

Robert Slovak: [00:05:43]Well, you know, since, uh, the mid seventies, there is the United States EPA drinkingwater act, which was the first time that formally the government becameinvolved in standards for all cities that have, I think more than twenty-fivecustomers, you have to meet some standards, go the EPA, drinking waterstandards.

And those standards include a list of contaminants that arein two categories. One are contaminants that affect your health and ones arecontaminants that, that have an aesthetic, an aesthetic effect in your lifelike hardness. Okay. I mean, it, it, it. Uh, scales your fixtures in your homeand it makes the laundry not come out, right?

So there's standards, even for that. And those aestheticstandards, uh, are not Sydney is, are not obliged to do it. They're justrecommendations, but the other standards have to be met. So if you look at allthe municipalities in North America, for instance, the variety and differencesamong them in terms of the contaminants and water problems is vast and, andincluding it's their natural, their natural features like the minerals and traceelements in them.

I always tell people, it doesn't matter what minerals andtrace elements serve in your tap water, because it varies from city to city. Soradically that some are almost like distilled water where it rains a lot andothers are, you know, it's, it's like a brick coming out of your faucet. Sojust don't use that as your guide.

Oh, I don't want to remove minerals from my tap water. Itdoesn't matter. There aren't enough minerals or valuable minerals in your tapwater for people who are really healthy, concerned, but Kemp. But to meet thestandards of the APA, you have to meet microbiological standards and, and toxicchemical standards.

That's the basic. Categories and those toxic standards, uh,in include natural substances are a snake is naturally in the water. Okay. Andsome areas it's too high fluoride can naturally be in the water and there's astandard for that. And then the cities, as, you know, put fluoride in the waterand guys like you, and I don't want four right.

In the water. Right. Cause it, it, it is, it is a chemicalthat, that we should, we should avoid in lieu of its potential dangers to ourbody. So, um, and there's many things that have driven the whole fluoride intap water. But you know, now we have, because recycling of water. Is a big dealin the world. You know, the world's running out of water and in many areas, sowe, water is recycled in the city.

I spent orange County, California. I'm sure you've beenthere. So orange County is really the first place to do large scale recyclingof its sewage. Okay. I don't know if you

Boomer Anderson: [00:09:20]know that, uh, I still live in Singapore and they were doing the similar thingtoo. Yes.

Robert Slovak: [00:09:25]Uh, I think most of the work, because I did some research there myself is, wasthat something called water factory 21 in fountain Valley, orange County,California.

And it's a facility that, that, that, that was, uh,installed next to the sewage treatment plant and the sewage after it goesthrough many stages of treatment, et cetera, et cetera, is then shuttled overto. The reclamation plant, where they run it through, starting with reverseosmosis membranes, and then other filtration technologies and oxidative thingsand ozone and ultraviolet.

And then they inject that water back into a river bed. Andthen that water goes throughout the County into aquifers that other, that, thatthe individual cities draw upon. So there are contaminants just from thatelusive contaminants, pharmaceuticals, Tylenol, uh, eyeliner that ended up inthe sewage. So there's that to be concerned with.

So the municipality puts chemicals in the water that wedon't, that health-minded people don't want. And then there are natural ones inthe water. As well. So it's, it's, it's a minefield. No one, in my opinion, inNorth America, unless you live in a remote area in Montana or, or, you know, ina very natural, pristine area, I would definitely always have something totreat my water.

Boomer Anderson: [00:11:13]So when I just want to pull out a couple of those chemicals that you mentioned,because I think it's important for people to know, just for instance, likefluoride, arsenic, what are some of the potentials here of if I were to intake?Uh, maybe not a glass because the glass may be is okay. But if you were to takethis water over a period of time, what does it do to our bodies?

Robert Slovak: [00:11:41]Okay. So there's obviously some water supplies. Have had the mental symptoms,the whole list of, you know, I mean,

Boomer Anderson: [00:11:50]w some are pretty famous, right? Like, yeah, yeah.

Robert Slovak: [00:11:54]Right. Lead in the water. And, and that led, uh, you know, that lead was fromthe pipes. It wasn't from the water supply. Okay. And they didn't manage thechemistry of the water.

And so it extracted, led from the pipes and, and caused alot of human damage. Um, but obviously there's almost every pesticideherbicide, glyphosate, you name it that can be detected in the water. Thequestion is, does it meet the standard or not? And the question also is, do youbelieve this standard covers

Boomer Anderson: [00:12:38]you it's it's like recommended daily allowances, right.

With vitamins it's the standards are that great.

Robert Slovak: [00:12:45]And, and it is sad that your, your, your audience should get if they live incertainly North America. I don't know if this exists in very many places inEurope. I don't think so, but you can get the drinking water, EPA drink inwater report. And you literally just Google EPA drinking water report forClearwater, Florida.

Okay. Or, or Chicago. Now, the only unfortunate thing is,and I don't know if it's intended that no one will be able to understand andread that report except guys like me. And, um, it's, it's sad. And a lot ofpeople ask me to use their report, which I get myself into because I tellpeople. Or a calm, I'd say 98% of the people who find out, Hey, that guy knowshis water stuff.

They will write me an email and says, what kind of filtershould I have for my house? And I try to explain to them, it's like walkinginto a doctor's office and say, can you write me a prescription? Yeah. Okay.And so I always say in all of my presentations, look, step number one, please.You must find out what is in your water supply to know how to address it.

You may be in a, a wonderful place in Idaho and you knowwhat all you need is an inexpensive Garvin filter. You know, they don't evenuse treatment chemicals there, et cetera. They don't recycle the water, etcetera, you know, and all it is is they ensure that it's micro biologicallypure. You really don't need anything more, but I need to know this.

And then that brings on the problem of, well, the only wayto know it is to get that report, but nobody can read that. Okay. There arealso contaminants. That are elusive. Like, I don't know if you've ever heard ofthe contaminant category called trihalomethanes. Okay.

Boomer Anderson: [00:15:03]Somebody crops that one, but that's just because I'm

Robert Slovak: [00:15:05]a nerd is the acronym for dry Allah methane.

It's a group of four chemicals. Now those chemicals don'tnormally exist in the source water for a city, but almost every city, by thetime it gets to your home, it has some trial on the things in it. Now what'swrong with trihalomethanes? Well, they're carcinogens and they're also linkedto miscarriages.

So have they get in there? Well, when you chlorinate waterto disinfect it, and everybody has to disinfect the water, assure that it's notgoing to deliver any pathogens to the. People who are on that water supply,that they either use chlorine or chloramines or chlorine dioxide, very rarelyin America. Do we use just something like ozone, which is more common where youlive, where they use ozone, but America uses chemicals.

It took many decades to figure out, and it was just scienceand detection levels, et cetera, that the chlorine was reacting with natural,organic matter in the water, which would be like just molecules of decomposed,the leaves and, and, and earth earthy things. Okay. It's in all water in theworld. They never realized that the chlorine would react with that and form acarcinogenic chemical, because chlorine is, is really, it's not a bigcontaminant, the objectionable from an aesthetic standpoint, but it's not yourbody deals with chlorine very easily.

So you might not like it in your shower, but it's not a bigdeal. It's not going to kill you. The shorten your life chlorine. When itreacts with the, uh, the organic molecules forms, these series of chemicals, wecall THMs are dry Alamo things. And, and when you look at your water report,you'll see that five years ago, the level of trihalomethanes used to be, uh, Ibelieve it was 150 parts per billion people be.

And then. As researchers we're studying, it's biological effects.They said we're recommending it. Go to 80 parts per billion. Yeah. And you willlook deeper into the whole EPA contaminant problem. You realize that there isanother column they have to create called the maximum contaminant level goal.Now, what is that?

No one would understand that on a water report, that meansthat this contaminant is so serious that we have a goal that no one very fewcan meet. And if you need it, you couldn't afford the water. Okay. So thateconomic factor comes in, but they still publish the goal. And the goal fortrihalomethanes is zero.

There is no safe level, but it's in virtually every watersupply in North America that chlorinated their water. So then I had anexperience at a health show and a woman came to me said, can you tell me what Ineed for my water? And I said, well, you know, w w w where do you live? Shesaid, I live in Jacksonville, Florida.

And she goes, you know, w what, what, tell me what brand Ineed, you know, I'll I'll order. No, no, no. We have to find out aboutJacksonville water. Yeah, let's go on the computer right now. We went on thecomputer and, um, I look up Jackson, denim gun, not, not bad, your, your watersupplies. And I stopped, and I see trihalomethanes that the levels have gottenso high.

That that, that they also, they had to order or issueletters to all the people that they've violated the standard

Boomer Anderson: [00:19:40]and nobody resists letters. Right.

Robert Slovak: [00:19:44]She said that I never remember receiving one and maybe they didn't, who knows.And she goes, what's wrong with them as well. I mean, I said, do you have anydaughters of childbearing age in your home?

And she goes, no, not any longer. And I said, well, I mean,this is, this is the most serious case of trihalomethane violation I've everseen. And what does it do? I said, well, the concern is that, you know, it'snot only a carcinogen, but it causes miscarriage. And she liked turned white.And she said, why live lived in this home?

I have had five miscarriages. Okay. And that I, I always usethis as an example of the importance of really understanding if you're abiohacker, if elf is important to you to really understand what your waterreport is. And it's a dilemma because there aren't many guys who can read thatreport. So I'm hoping that to solve, this is one on my bucket list, things tosolve.

How do we fix this problem? Letting people know what theproblem is.

Boomer Anderson: [00:20:55]Yeah, exactly. Education is the first step for sure. Now, Robert, when we startlooking at potential ways to solve this problems, as you alluded to many peopleprobably come up to you at health shows. And I get approached with questionwith this question all the time.

It's just sort of, what is the best filter do you use? Uh,is it, is it the Brita? Is it the Berkey? Is it, uh, something else? And it.Help us navigate this because like everything in the health world, that's alittle bit of a landmine. There's a lot of bullshit out there. And I would justlove for you to just shed some clarity

Robert Slovak: [00:21:32]on that bottom line, bottom line for all the categories of contaminants thatcan be in water that include inorganics most of which are natural, like leadarsenic.

Okay. Chromium six can be natural or it could be fromindustry. Then we have microbiologicals we have, uh, all of the pesticides andherbicides show up in water supplies usually to part per billion levels, butthey're there and they're in every glass of water. I mean, I think you can findthe glyphosate in every.

Municipal water supply in the United States. I mean, it's,it's, it's in the air and it falls on the lakes and rivers and it gets in thewater supply. There is no method for the city to, to remove all the glyphosate.You couldn't afford the water. Okay. Uh, you have pharmaceuticals now in thewater, uh, endocrine disruptors, a myriad of, of chemicals.

You have industrial chemicals usually called volatileorganic chemicals, leaking gas tanks. Um, just the imagine how, when thesolvents are sprayed on things every day. So those ended up getting in thewater supply, people rinse down the driveway that gets in the water supply. Soif we take all these contaminants, how many are there?

Well, there's over a hundred. Uh, over a hundred that couldbe in a municipal water supply. And there's probably another hundred and 50that are recognized, but Congress has not released them into the standardsbecause if they did, once again, no one could afford the water. So they justhold them back. Like hoping that a technology will come along, enable them toremove these things.

So if we take all these categories of contaminants, all ofthem are chemically different, have different characteristics. And what canremove them is very different. There's only two methods that someone that, thatare capable of removing virtually all of the categories, just then this is thebottom line right here.

It's coming. Drum roll. Distillation plus activated Garbinand reverse osmosis plus activated carbon. One could never go wrong other thanchoosing the wrong distiller or the wrong, or, or, or a bad reverse osmosissystem. And they exist in greater numbers than the good ones. And that's theother side of the hazard of getting a water purification system.

But those two technologies, if you just start there, thoseare the only two that your and my audience should even consider unless you livein some pristine area. Okay. Where. You know, it's, it's, it's, it's noteffected by agriculture industry, you

Boomer Anderson: [00:25:01]know, nothing, and you're not probably not listening to podcasts there.

Right. It's just exactly. Yeah. So suffice to say, everybodylistening here should look into distillation plus the carbon plus reverseosmosis. Now the logical question from a lot of people listening to this isgoing to be okay, Robert, what the hell are those? What does that mean? Okay.

Robert Slovak: [00:25:24]So distillation really approximates the natural nature's method, which is apurifying water on earth, which is.

Also called the hydrologic cycle where the sun evaporates,you know, if you go back to eighth grade, the sun evaporates water from theoceans and the air currents, uh, carry that water vapor that's evaporated overthe Hills and mountains of the earth and it snows and rains because itcondenses it due to the cooler temperature and it falls on the ground.

Some of it gets absorbed into the ground and that stays inplaces called aquifers, which can be drawn upon some aquifers cover three orfour States, okay. In the United States. And the rest of it ends up going inlittle streams that make little rivers that end up making, flowing into lakesand ultimately back to the ocean.

That's the hydrologic cycle. And that's uses distillationwhere you heat water. To a vapor state, most contaminants, not all mostcontaminants will stay behind all. They have the metals led Adams, arsenicAdams chromium will stay behind because the vapor is, it leaves them behind.And then the distiller condenses that by cooling the water.

And then, uh, you, you have in that water, some potentiallow molecular weight, more volatile things like trihalomethanes, okay. Like,uh, synthetic organic chemicals, plasticizers, et cetera, that display relationdoes not remove itself. But then you put it through activated carbon, which isreally the best technology to absorb.

These kinds of contaminants that are low molecular weight.That combination really does you a great benefit through your lifetime ofprotecting you from water contaminants, reverse osmosis is achieves the samething, but instead of using energy and heat, it uses something that, you know,that I've been involved with all of my life and starting in 1971.

Okay. Long before you were born. And so, so, um, the reverseosmosis uses a membrane that let's say looks like heavy duty saran wrap. Okay.I dunno if saran wrap is still made, but I use that phrase.

Boomer Anderson: [00:28:28]We do, we still have it in the grocery store here in Europe, which means

Robert Slovak: [00:28:32]you have your saran wrap, but it looks like heavy duty saran wrap, and it has aproperty.

And it's one of the genius discoveries of, uh, of Americaby, by an Indian scientist called CIRI Rajan in about the mid fifties. And hediscovered that one can make this polymer that rejects most things exceptwater. So only water goes through the membrane, um, kind of simplifying watergoes through the membrane and some of those volatile chemicals.

Okay. Same problem with distillation. The little tinyvolatile molecules can go through. But it removes all the heavy stuff, theheavy metals microbiologicals, et cetera, et cetera, uh, frogs and twigs, youname it. And then the water comes out of that membrane. Very quite pure. And,um, then you put it through a carbon filter to remove the residual V morevolatile contaminants, and then both produce pretty much equivalent water,certainly more than enough for any of the most, uh, demanding biohacker interms of health.

Boomer Anderson: [00:29:53]Wow. There's many different directions. I can take this. Now, if we take let'sfocus on reverse osmosis water, because you were so very involved in the fieldfrom the right at the beginning, um, Well, we take reverse osmosis water, andthere's many a devices out there, and I'd love your opinion on which are thebest.

But when we take that at the end state, it's gone throughthe process. Do we need to re add minerals to this in order to get the very,you know, some of the things that kind of get stripped out of that? Do we needto re add minerals or is it perfectly okay to drink in that state? Okay.

Robert Slovak: [00:30:33]And this is, this is like the ultimate question that gets asked if you were tohave an ideal diet

of, uh, produce and eggs and butter. And so on, that was,that was biodynamically grown. Right. Let's just imagine this thing. That's notgoing to happen for most of your, your audience. Very hard

Boomer Anderson: [00:31:06]to do in a city. That's for sure. Right.

Robert Slovak: [00:31:10]Um, you probably do not have to add minerals and trace elements. The food willeasily carry you.

However,

caused by a drug biodynamic food is not going to beavailable. And this is one of the most important things that I can tell youraudience, whether you need it or not in the water, you should take advantage ofthe water, his ability to deliver, deliver a full suite of minerals and traceelements. Now we've gotten bored.

Your, and my colleagues, et cetera, we have gotten boredabout the subject about minerals and trace zone. That's if you ask somebody, doyou take minerals? Yeah, I take

Boomer Anderson: [00:32:04]minerals, but it's not the sexiest thing in the world. Right. So it's not

Robert Slovak: [00:32:09]the sexiest thing. Yeah. And, and there's a lot of cool, sexy things, you know?

N a D a N P K. We go for it. Metabolic activators, butminerals are boring and I have spent 17 years. And you, I don't know if you sawthe story where I brought a product called Kennestone Marine place. Yup. I'm

Boomer Anderson: [00:32:32]familiar with it. I use it.

Robert Slovak: [00:32:36]And I'm the guy who brought it to America. I don't know if you are aware ofthat.

I discovered it in Brazil because it saved my life. It's avery dramatic story to me and it changed my life and my career. And it made merealize when I studied, when it saved my life, I had no idea what, what theheck it was even in it or why it did it until I studied in Brazil with anArgentine biologist who said, sit down, I'm going to change your life.

And we were both scientists and he changed my life and whatwas supposed to be a 30 minute, little blast of what? And I happened to have ithere because I'm so fond of it. These are isotonic and hypertonic. Okay.

Instead of a 30 minute meeting, it went from nine o'clock atnight, till seven o'clock in the morning

with me not even speaking a word, just my jaw was open atwhat he opened up to me. And that comes back to, and maybe there's a time wecan just do one on minerals.

Boomer Anderson: [00:33:59]I think, I think that's going to be a separate podcast in general. I

Robert Slovak: [00:34:03]trying to convince and doctors, they have trouble grasping this life began inthe only solution in the solar system of the entire periodic table of, uh, ofthe elements.

And that solution is called the ocean and the ocean carried,evolved species and their development for over 2 billion years. In other words,I mean, no doctor has ever not been flabbergasted by this. When I ask anaudience of doctors, how long did. How long did all the species of everythingplant animal, how long did it stay in the ocean before it actually sought aterrestrial existence?

I don't know, a million years, 10 million years, butwhatever. No, 2 billion years, 2 billion years. And I said, life became sointrinsically every aspect of it, the gin, genes, chromosomes, et cetera, everyaspect became so connected with the periodic table. And nobody even talks aboutthe periodic table. Nope.

There is a person. All of your attendees should know. Hisname is August professor, August Dunning, August Dunning has a professor likeprofessor emeritus at child tech. You know, one of the most prestigiousuniversities in the world, August Dani, professor August, and he has it videoon YouTube and so on.

I'm going to guess it's been out for more than five years.It's called habitat crisis. Now August Dunning is an astrophysicist. And Idon't know if you remember, I happened to be not an astrophysicist, but I'm anastronautical engineer by education. So we have this connection and we bothfigure it out.

The same thing independently. This astrophysicist too is,you know, 10 times more brilliant than Ida all ever be is one of like thedesigners of the space station, the international space station, but somethinghe's the thinker he looks and he goes, Holy mackerel, man, evolved in theocean. And the species became so dependent upon what the ocean chemistry, whatthe hell is the ocean chemistry?

Oh my God. It's a, it's a unique solution of the entireperiodic table of the elements. And the elements are what make up the wholeuniverse. And the story became like, Holy mackerel, this is incredible story.And he said, I'm going to look at, I'm going to look at this. I'm going to lookat this at the diseases, the incidents of chronic disease and the loss.

If the, he didn't know if there was a loss, the loss of theminerals and trace elements from 1900 to present, you have to see the chartbecause as the minerals went down on this side, the chronic disease went up. Imean, it is, you know, key and lock. And it's so definitive. There's nothing.In my opinion, there is nothing that has allowed chronic disease to become themost egregious modern affliction.

Then people's ignorance of obtaining minerals and traceelements, the whole periodic table. It ain't in your food anymore. Even if youhave the primary minerals like calcium, magnesium, potassium, phosphorus, ironblah, blah, blah, you know, there's six 70 plus more trace elements thatvirtually no research has ever been done on for good reason.

It's it's, it's like so complicated. Like we don't no one'sinspired to test. Well, how many parts per billion of. Uh, titanium mightourselves need no, one's going hear it because

Boomer Anderson: [00:38:40]we also can't patent it. Right. So,

Robert Slovak: [00:38:43]well, you brought up probably the biggest motivating factor not to do it. So ifyou just keep just so August Dunning just said, Hey, this is one of thegreatest awarenesses.

There is the need for the full suite of minerals and traceelements, but he went off into a unique direction. My direction, frankly, wasjust, Hey, you better drink some pure seawater, okay. Their whole life. And infact, drink it before you have a baby that that's the best time the fetus, theamniotic fluid of the fetus is just affect similarly of the primordial ocean.

That's what it's supposed to be. That's what nature saysit's supposed to be. It's. Forming the fetus in its own ocean, but what doctor tellus a woman. She has to have the periodic table of the elements in her bodyfluids to supply the baby. You know, maybe this many doctors who've been to myclass. So, so have your people go and look up habitat crisis?

I think it's a YouTube, there's many forms of it, but it'sjust a revelation and, and, and I'm not even sure how we got into themineralization. Oh, now I know. Should you put it in your water? Well, water isa great way to use it. It doesn't matter. Really. If you take it directly orput it in your water, it's nice to have minerals in the water for a number ofreasons.

Um, like, and I reluctant, we use this word. Structuring.Okay. It gets, it's a, it's an, it's an largely meaningless word that peopleare magically attracted to. I was

Boomer Anderson: [00:40:38]throwing it around pretty loosely right now. Right.

Robert Slovak: [00:40:41]Um, and, and, and, and, and here's another point I'd like to make while we'reon the structuring words, topic structuring can be a thousand different things.

It can be the water molecular configurations that changewith temperature and every picosecond, it can be magnetic influences, resonant,influences. There's just thousands of things that can put, make an effect inwater that the water will memorize. But I tell people very few structured,especially artificially structured.

Uh, attempts to, to, to modify water or influence it aregoing to survive the stomach experience. I tell people, these structures inwater are delicate. Okay. They're there, they're fragile and you're going todrink a glass of water. And I have shocked so many scientists over the zoo go,Holy macro. I didn't think of that.

I said your stomach can dissolve a certain line steak in 20minutes. Do you have any idea what it does to just a glass of water? Imaginecorrection and no one thought of this before and just for, for your purposes.When I tell people, if you want to see, I tell researchers, if you want to seewhat's structured.

If you make something, you call structured water. That'ssupposed to do this tested on people by having them nebulize the water. Okay.Take it directly into the bloodstream. Don't try to go through thegastrointestinal tract at least to discover what your capabilities are.

Boomer Anderson: [00:42:36]Very cool. Robert. No, no, no, no, no.

Look, there's, you've made me realize that we're going tohave to have another podcast in on many different topics, but I want to bringup a word that comes very often up when we talk about your name in particular.And just because I've always wanted to ask you about this deteriorate. Anddeteriorate, depleted water, talk us through sort of, okay, this, this issomething that has come along the biohacking scene in recent years, but for thevast majority of people out there deteriorate, they don't even know what it is.

Uh, and so if you can walk us through just sort of what isdeterior and sort of that term depleted water, why should we care? Fitting thatin a podcast about water, I'm going to share with you what type of water filterI use for a long time. I was a flag waver for a different company, but uponrecent investigation, I became concerned about their quality control process,but also the authenticity of their initial lab results.

I switched and now. I'm a loyal user of the . In fact, I'mso loyal that I got one for my parents. If you want to get yours, you can headon over to the show notes here. Decoding superhuman.com/slovak. You can clickon Aqua. True. And they'll take you over to the website where I share with you thestory of how I got one.

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Robert Slovak: [00:44:23]I think that's a very fair question. And I don't know if you know that just onSaturday, we did a deuterium depletion summit. Okay. And we had the topdeuterium experts from the world from Turkey to Russia, to from, from Romania,just the best, the best of the best the guys.

Who put the research and the science to do tier, uh, and,and it's, it's quite a story. Imagine me, after 50 years, plus in studying theremoval of contaminants in water that I always paid attention to biologicalexperiments that involve water with deuterium, less material, et cetera. And,and, and so this, it was one of the greatest shocks of my entire life to findout about deuterium.

Okay. So late in my, in my water group, now I will tell youthat we're going to go back. Yeah. The periodic table, just for a second. Andwe're going to explain what the material is. When you look at the periodictable, you notice that the first element is hydrogen. I think everybody knowsthat. Yeah. But not many people know that not only hydrogen, but most of theelder elements have more than one version, more than one form.

And well, what do you mean? What, what, what, what changesit? Well, the changes is, uh, is, uh, a science called isotopes isotopes arethe variations of a particular element Adams. So hydrogen, the simple list andlightest element has one proton and one electron. And the three things thatmake up all Adams is protons, neutrons and electrons.

They're the sub particles that of every app, but hydrogendoesn't have a neutron or at least the hydrogen, most people think of it's justthe proton and electron, but early on, I mean, so early, we're talking aboutbig bang early we're talking 13.8 billion years ago, early, the first twoparticles that were created, it appears was the proton and the neutron

and those proton and neutron when to out we're talking aboutin microseconds, went out, looking for something to, to, to complete them. Andthey found electrons. So the proton found an electron and formed a hydrogenatom and the proton and the neutron. Stuck together in a way. And they found anelectron and that was hydrogen too, but we call that deuterium, the regularhydrogen, just proton and electron week called scientists called protium woulddistinguish it.

So isotope number one is protium just proton and electronisotope. Number two, a neutron is added to the nucleus. So it's a proton, aneutron and an electron. And there is isotope number three, that we're not it'scalled tritium, or we're not even going to discuss it. And it tends to beslightly radioactive, but it's beyond the scope of this.

So everybody said, wow, that's interesting that. There'sanother, there's this heavier ice a joke because it has a new Trump. This wasdiscovered in 1931. Okay. Now 1931 wasn't long before world war II, it wasgetting ready. Right? When scientists realized that there was a heavier form ofhydrogen called deuterium, especially the atomic scientists like Einstein inthe United States and that he was in the U S at that time, I kinda think maybe,uh, but in Heisenberg, in Germany, they go, Holy mackerel, this is a gift fromthe gods because we can make something called a nuclear reactor.

Okay. Do pterygium allows you to make a nuclear reactor?Deuterium. It didn't take very long for them to figure out that it also enabledthem to make the atomic bomb. So people went on the rampage to make an extractthis deuterium from water. So those two isotopes protium and hydrogen canexchange each other.

In any chemical reaction. The primary one is they cancombine, they can go seek out in the universe, an oxygen molecule, two of themcan combine. And now you have water. That includes one. Or possibly twodeuterium hydrogens stuff. So if we were to call, protium just H cause we'reused to calling it hydrogen.

We have three kinds of molecules that water can form H2O. Andif we call deuterium D we can have an H and a D and to know HDO, and we canhave a D to, Oh, those three molecules of water are in every glass of water onthe planet. Okay. Yikes.

Boomer Anderson: [00:50:52]You just blew a bunch of people's minds here, but this is a, this isfascinating.

Now we have to go take it one step further for us.

Robert Slovak: [00:51:00]What blew everyone's mind though is when they realized that the deuterium,unlike any other element in the periodic table, boomer is twice as heavy. Asthe regular hydrogen and you can, it can, it, it can replace it in anysubstance reaction in the whole universe.

That's what isotopes are enabled to do. So you can makewater with either protium or deuterium. You can make sugars with it. You canmake fats with it. You can have it coat the, the, the, the DNA of spiral. Okay.It's everywhere. And that twice as heavy part, I tried to impress upon what ascientist realized when he said twice as heavy.

I tell people an audience, usually even doctors, Hey guys.Imagine waking up in the morning and you're 15 pounds heavier. Okay. That,that, that, that would be serious for a lot of you. Okay. And women would reactvery, very unhappy with that result, but imagine waking up twice as heavy,that's a game changer that that scientists realize was what they had withdeuterium.

So something twice as heavy replacing the regular protiumhydrogen in the fat is going to act differently in all the reactions in livingthings. Okay. This is heavy. I mean, when I realize this, I literally, I mean,you know, I literally was like shaking my head. This can't be, I can't havelearned this so late.

And then I quickly realized that this deuterium does so manythings that are, uh, are unfavorable to living things, plants and animalsdoesn't matter. It does so many unpleasant things that I started to look at it.Like no one else actually was looking at it as a contaminant. They didn'tidentify it as a contaminant, but I did because I came from the world of watercontaminants.

And I can't think can imagine that I'm 70 years olddiscovering that's six years ago, discovering that water has a contaminant init that I didn't know about. That is as agregious as any contaminant known andit's water to that. Water is a contaminant. If it is do teary minute and that,then I said, well, you know, I quickly realized, well, how do you get rid of acan't we just filter it out.

You're the aro guy. You just figured no, you can't remove notechnology can remove deuterium from water except eat, elaborate processes. Andone of the processes that's most common that makes this bottle of this bottleof water. Um, one of the processes is called fractional distillationrectification.

It's a variation. That's many, many, many, many, many, many,many times more complicated than distillation, but it basically separates themolecules into a vapor and the lighter molecules go up three stories and arecondensed and full drop by drop to make water that is without deuterium. Andbecause deuterium is heavy, we call the water that had doesn't have deuteriumlightwater.

That's the word that's been given to it. And it's only madein four countries in the world, Russia, Romania, Hungary, and China. And whatwas a very little bit made only enough right now for about 40,000 people. Wow.Which I don't have to tell you what certainly w w wouldn't get far inAmsterdam. I

Boomer Anderson: [00:56:06]know. And the supply demand dynamics on that one, explain why an Erewhon.

I have to pay so much money for deteriorate depleted water.

Robert Slovak: [00:56:15]Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So

now this has become the focus of my, of my current careerthat we, our company called drink lightwater.com is the website, but ourcompany is called lightwater scientific two years ago, about a little earlierin the year, then than we are now got on a plane with my Russian scientistfriend, Victor, and we headed, we headed to Moscow.

To meet the scientists. We needed to know more about this.And we knew that for most of recent history, the focus was on gettingdeuterium, not eliminating it because they wanted to make reactors in bonds.So, okay. Nobody was studying well, what if, what if, what about, what if wetake the deuterium out? What does that do?

Well, nobody cared about that. They were making re reactorsand bombs, but the Russians who kind of missed the opportunity to make thereactors and bombs, at least that in the late fifties said, what the heck doesthis water do? If we, if w what if we increase the do cheery? And what doesthat do? What if we just have pure deuterium water?

All the water is H D O and D two. What, what have we dothat? Well, they found out very quickly. If you just had pure deuterium waterand it would look just like this, it would taste just like regular water. If yougave that to a laboratory animal, he wouldn't live for the rest of the day.

Boomer Anderson: [00:58:09]Wow. Okay. That's pretty serious.

Robert Slovak: [00:58:14]If you that pure deuterium mortar on a plant, it certainly wouldn't be alivethe next day. And you're going, I mean, I was going, this is crazy. I mean,what a contaminant that looks exactly like water tastes exactly like waterfunctions, like water, you can cook your spaghetti in it, that this would killany living thing.

And in fact, even if you only have 20%. If you only have 20%of the water as deuterium, pretty much nothing can live in it, maybe. So thatlike, Whoa, then the Russians actually said, well, what if we removal thedeuterium? So how much deuterium is in this water? There is in regular water.There's about six drops of deuterium water or water molecules that containdeuterium Adams was about six drops in every leader.

Okay. That's all. And the, one of the reasons why peoplewon't care as six drops, I mean, scientists knew that all along six drops. Imean, you know, we've all lived this long. We all live to, you know, 80, 90, ahundred years old that school, but they didn't realize what was going to happenwhen they pushed the envelope.

So the Russian people, the Russian scientists started tostudy all the effects of removing those six drops. And it's, it's a story thatis just beginning to be told. And they started that investigation in the latefifties. They figured out most of it by the seventies. And then kind of 60years later, they decided to tell the rest of the world, there was some thoughtabout, well, what deuterium depleted water can do.

Yeah. Want to take advantage of it? Like if you had a littlegroup of a cult or something you'd want that cult or lesbians

Boomer Anderson: [01:00:38]or Olympians, I imagine stuff like that.

Robert Slovak: [01:00:41]You brought up a very good point and there are a limpian and some extremely theworlds. There are a number of the world's famous athletes who realize whatdeuterium depletion means.

And I want to impress there. There's nothing special aboutthe water. It's an, and I try to make sure people don't see this as some kindof like neat herbal potions that you drink. And once you get it in your body,it's going to do something. This doesn't do anything, but get rid of your Dukearea. You need to get rid of what's already in your body.

You don't need to add anything, just get rid of it. Sothere's, this water is just simple, stupid water that doesn't have the sixdrops of deuterium and it just kind of flushes out. Your deuterium in your bodyin a process we call deuterium depletion. And one of the most famous scientistswho is an expert in deuterium Laszlo, Burrells Dr.

Laszlo burrows, who was also a doctor at UCLA. Um, and oneof the most famous people on the internet, like you, he has many YouTube andexplains that the science, the inner science most, most of your audienceprobably wouldn't relate to is his talks, um, as excellent as they are, buthe's renamed deuterium, depletion, depletion.

Okay. He's created a new word. So it's just really gettingmore and more popular and, uh, We are looking for ways our company like waterscientific is looking for ways right now to, to have a deuterium depletionfacility in the United States, because we see that this is, this is a veryimportant technology for, for, for health and wellness.

Boomer Anderson: [01:02:53]So Robert and I'm afraid we're coming up on time here. So I have to ask my onequestion and look at the invitation is going to be open for round two. And Iwant to get that scheduled soon. Cause there's a whole host of things I'm noteven going to get to ask you the benefits of deteriorate depletion.

So first, how long does it take? And so you take the water.Is it instantaneous that all of the deteriorate leaves? I imagine you asked

Robert Slovak: [01:03:19]the great question. What are the bad effects really needed? First of all, thebody has those six drops. In every liter of your total body water. Okay.Because all the water that you consume and, you know, you're by weight, your 60to 70% water and by water molecule, this is getting to be a more and morepopular statistic.

If we divide the body up into the types of molecules it'scomprised of. Okay. I mean, there's water molecules, fat molecules, a bonemolecule, blah, blah, blah. Your body happens to be 98.8% water molecules.Okay. So all that water came from outside sources in your whole life, and itall contains six drops of deuterium.

So you contain six drops of deuterium. I contain maybe threedrops of two group Tyria okay. Because I have been duplicating. So what does itdo? Okay, so let's change the nomenclature to teach your audience the six dropswe normally call it. We put it in a little more scientific term, 150 parts permillion.

I think much of your audience is aware of this. It's used onsupplements and so on. And pretty much though, it's not exactly this, but partsper million in science is very similar to milligrams per liter. Okay. So if youwere to pick up water that had, um, you know, extra magnesium in it, you, itmight, it would probably be expressed as you know, this bottle of watercontains 200 milligrams per liter.

Or 200 parts per million of magnesium. But that's what I wastrying to give you a little science here. Cause I own these take theopportunity to teach science, um, uh, sneak it in to art science, deficientculture. Yeah. So, so you're one 50. Now you need to take some, you need todrink water. That's lower than one 50 to start depleting.

Now, if you were to, you can start depleting with 130 partsper million water. I use this number because 130 part per million was how theRussian gerontologists in the fifties and sixties, the sixties and seventiesfound a group of, of Siberians. That uniquely had natural water. That was 130parts per million.

It's very, very, very, very, very, very rare to have thislow in nature. I mean, the oceans are 155 and the, you know, the, the, uh, Lakein Bolivia is 150, but these people had water. That was one 30 because in meteorologicaleffects, like the hydrologic cycle, the deuterium can be separated out infreezing and thawing cycles.

We won't get into it, but, and resulting in water, that'smore depleted in nutrients. And this was one 30. Now these, they th th thesepeople got their attention because they had. Many many, many, many times morepeople who lived over a hundred, okay. Some into the hundred 3,040 range, thenthe rest of the Russian population.

And it took them like a decade to figure out what it was.They looked at all the things, you know, how they grew food. There were social.Did they pray all that neat stuff? But in the end it was because the peopledrank water from birth till death birth till death is an important thing torealize here that if you were to have this water 130 parts per million, whichisn't very depleted, like 15% from birth till death, the benefits of longevity,anti-aging how long you can bear children, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

It are magnificent. So why is it magnificent? Because there'sa direct relationship, certainly with deuterium and your mitochondria and we,you and I are going through a period of time that not so much you, but me, butthe previous paradigm that I lived in for health was pretty much free radicalsand antioxidants.

Okay. I mean, that, that, that shaped the whole healthparadigm. Now we're moving to metabolism and mitochondria science has shiftedus there, partly because of scientific developments. I mean, the mitochondriaare so difficult to even find and study that it took all these decades to go.Holy macro, these are more, these are as important as your genes.

You know, and everybody knew they supplied the energy, butpeople didn't even realize how important the energy was. It fueled every,everything shuts down. If you're Mike mitochondria, doesn't matter that youhave genes, if you don't have mitochondria. Okay. Cause they won't even be ableto transcribe proteins.

Okay. So mitochondria metabolism and mitochondria arebecoming the focus of, of medicine and, and, and the pursuit of, of a healthylifestyle. So when you take this water, if you headed, if you said, Hey, I'mgoing to have a child, I'm going to raise this child. I'd say you don't have togo anything less than to have these extraordinary.

Results. You don't have to go anything less than 130, butyou're not a child anymore. And I'm far, far from a child. So I started out at70 plus, okay. With 80 parts per million water. Okay. I wanted to deplete andbecause I'm a scientist, I wanted to see what that was going to do for me. Buttypically people can take between 110 to 120 PPM water.

Okay. Parts per million of deuterium. And that water startedout at one point in some facility at 150. And you're going to slowly in theperiod of, let's say if you're, if you're as disciplined as you are, uh, and,and, and Tim gray, you're going to be down to. 120 and two months. Okay. Nowhow do you know you are?

There is something and we own one of the few in America, adeuterium analyzer. They're very elaborate things that cost $150,000, blah,blah, blah. And they can test the deuterium in water, of course, and they cantest the deuterium in saliva. And we use that as a measure. So people, if Iwere to test you and all your friends, okay.

In, in Amsterdam, all of you, I could say, or will bebetween 148 and 152. Yeah. That little bit of a spread. So if you all drankbetween 110 and 120, and, and, and when I say drink, I don't mean. Oh, here,just drink this 10 ounce glass a day. It's not like that. You have to replaceto do this faithfully that say 90% of your water.

If you don't want to be that rigorous, you can use other,other do completion, uh, enhancements like ketogenic diet. We don't have thetime to get into why that helps your mitochondria get rid of deuterium. Okay. Butthere are things, exercise, infrared sauna, early morning, sun, you know, maybegrounding or earthing also helps to remove deuterium, but all of this stuffgoes along with the culture of deuterium depletion.

And I suggest that people spend the time two to threemonths. Have in consuming, let's say 110 PPM water. And for instance, this,just to show you there's we make these two products from Russia, once 10 partsper million, this is our main stream. So when you mix, when you don't drink 10parts per million, yeah.

You drink say you mix it with three other equivalent amountsto get 110 and you drink that. You make your coffee with it. No more visits toStarbucks. Okay. Um, you, you, you make your, you like almond milk. You've gotto make it with this water and you make, you love green tea, which you,everybody should. You need to make it with this one.

And when you have that discipline you within two to threemonths, you can get down to a lower level. What the hell happens to you? Well,it happened to me. I mean, I have always been an energetic person form for myage. Okay. But I have gone into and I can look somebody straight in the eye. Ido have, I do feel I do when I leave this workspace and I go out into theworld.

I am a 46 year old person, not a 76 year old person. Okay. Ican, I can. I found myself because I don't have opportunities, you know, tothrow the baseball around or kick the soccer ball as much as other people, Iwill park in every parking lot at the furthest parking space and run to the frontdoor of the mall or the store.

That's just, I have to spill energy and it's, and sometimesI feel goofy about it because I'm passing another 70 year old. Okay. And I'mgoing, Holy shit. The guy doesn't know. Okay. It's so sad. The guide does notknow that you can do this at 70. So that's the effect it has. And other thingsstart happening with your health too.

Okay. Things start disappearing. Uh, there's things that,um, there are serious health benefits in terms of chronic illness that we arenot comfortable discussing because of the restrictions on us in saying this,but they're profound for deuterium depleted water and our customers. Many ofour customers know this and take it for that reason.

And there are some profound benefits. So for even the mostegregious health, uh, afflictions.

Boomer Anderson: [01:15:24]Robert, this is a fascinating conversation. And I know it's just a part one,because I'm going to book your time very soon, uh, for part two, where canpeople find out? No, no, no. This is amazing. Uh, and look, I kind of suspectedthat this conversation would go this way in the sense that I just knew.

I would need more time with you. Uh, where can people findout more about you right now? Robert?

Robert Slovak: [01:15:50]I would say there's two companies, actually three, I rep companies whorepresent water and wellness, which is water and spelled out water andwellness.com. They can read about me there. And this has some unique products,like my favorite, one of all time, even more favorite the Keene zone.

Okay. Um, I am also because I'm the creator of the originalone hydrogen. Okay, hydrogen tablets. I'm a big, that's something we shouldtalk about. Perhaps the next time I'm very involved in the benefits ofmolecular hydrogen. And then there's lightwater scientific, whose website isdrink lightwater.com. And I'm also, I don't know if you read or that I'm alsoassociated with as one of the primary investors in Chris shade's company,quick, silver scientific.

And so what is very unique and very happened, very organicorganically is that Chris shade just dropped in the world's lap and entiresuite of metabolic oriented nutraceuticals that are simply he brilliant. And ifthe people. You can, if the people can go and see, I'm not even sure how weshow it, but that deuterium depletion, seminar, deuterium depletion summit thatwe did this past Saturday, Chris shade does a talk that you must, you mustlisten to.

And also, I just want to tell people that anybody who's likeconfronting cancer, Thomas S a S C freed Thomas C free book author, themetabolic, uh, you know, cancer is a metabolic disease. A must for your

Boomer Anderson: [01:17:52]audience. I've I've seen Thomas speak before. He's a very articulate. Yeah, heis. He's great guy.

Robert Slovak: [01:17:59]I mean it game changer.

So, I mean, if you're not happy with your oncologist, pleasegive them a book by Thomas sea freight. It was fantastic. So that's my mainthrust in my life right now. And, um, and, and doing podcasts and trying tohelp humanity. I'm also an activist. If you don't mind my saying it's a plugagainst 5g. Yeah. Okay.

I mean, not just 5g, we use this as a symbol. I'm againstall EMF. We have to shut it down. I mean, I can't even believe humanity got oursouls in this amount of trouble and incorporations are just driving things intoour lives that are not good for us. And, um, 5g is one of the most egregious,uh, of, of them.

Boomer Anderson: [01:18:52]Robert, uh, the we're going to continue this conversation. This is fantastic.And thank you for all the work you do, and really spreading the word andeducating my audience. So thank you for

Robert Slovak: [01:19:04]being here today. You're very welcome. It was a great interaction. Thank you.You got to

Boomer Anderson: [01:19:10]love people that tell amazing stories.

You gotta love people that have fantastic life experiences,and that I love people who are very open about those life experiences. Thereare a number of different topics that I obviously wanted to get to today, butdue to a number of factors, Robert and I are going to have to continue thisconversation for a part two very, very soon.

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